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''Editor’s Note:'' Readers should be aware of the forum’s format. D. A. Carson, &lt;br /&gt;
Mark Coppenger, Joel R. Beeke, and Pierre Constant have been asked&lt;br /&gt;
specific questions to which they have provided written responses. These writers are not&lt;br /&gt;
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thinkers’ views on topics of interest without requiring lengthy articles from these&lt;br /&gt;
heavily-committed individuals. Their answers are presented in an order that hopefully&lt;br /&gt;
makes the forum read as much like a unified presentation as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''SBJT: Could you briefly lay out the opportunities and dangers in the current interest in spirituality?'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''D. A. Carson:''' So many books on the&lt;br /&gt;
subject of spirituality have been written&lt;br /&gt;
during the last two or three decades that&lt;br /&gt;
it is an impertinence to address the topic&lt;br /&gt;
in a few paragraphs. In the hope that&lt;br /&gt;
brevity may serve some useful functions,&lt;br /&gt;
however, I’m inclined to say at least the&lt;br /&gt;
following.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before I answer the question directly, it&lt;br /&gt;
is worth remembering that “spirituality”&lt;br /&gt;
has an intellectual history that is worth&lt;br /&gt;
thinking about. I summarized that history&lt;br /&gt;
elsewhere (in an Appendix to ''The Gagging of God''), and I need not repeat&lt;br /&gt;
here everything I said there. Nevertheless&lt;br /&gt;
a handful of remarks from that survey&lt;br /&gt;
will not go amiss. (1) Until a few decades&lt;br /&gt;
ago, “spirituality” was not an expression&lt;br /&gt;
much used in Protestantism. Nowadays,&lt;br /&gt;
however, the expression is used not only&lt;br /&gt;
by Catholics and Protestants alike, but&lt;br /&gt;
also by almost everyone, including completely&lt;br /&gt;
unchurched people who think of&lt;br /&gt;
themselves as in many respects secular.&lt;br /&gt;
“Spiritual” may hint at some sort of connection&lt;br /&gt;
to eastern religions or to new age&lt;br /&gt;
thought, but it might mean something like&lt;br /&gt;
“aesthetic,” and it might be tied to fairly&lt;br /&gt;
mystical quasi-materialist beliefs (e.g.,&lt;br /&gt;
some keep crystals close to them in the&lt;br /&gt;
belief that they vibrate and improve the&lt;br /&gt;
holder’s “spirituality”). (2) In the Western&lt;br /&gt;
world, the term was, as I’ve just said, until&lt;br /&gt;
recently tied to Catholicism. But what did&lt;br /&gt;
Catholics mean by it? One of their usages&lt;br /&gt;
meant something like “devotional.” While&lt;br /&gt;
Protestants might write either academic&lt;br /&gt;
or “devotional” commentaries, Catholics&lt;br /&gt;
might write either academic or “spiritual”&lt;br /&gt;
commentaries—and meant much&lt;br /&gt;
the same thing. (3) Another traditional&lt;br /&gt;
Catholic usage that stretches back many&lt;br /&gt;
centuries has to do with forms of ''superior''&lt;br /&gt;
Christian experience. In other words,&lt;br /&gt;
ordinary Christians might believe certain&lt;br /&gt;
things and act in certain ways, but to be a&lt;br /&gt;
really spiritual Christian meant to engage&lt;br /&gt;
in certain ascetic practices, adopt certain&lt;br /&gt;
spiritual discipline, and so forth. In other&lt;br /&gt;
words, to be “spiritual” was something&lt;br /&gt;
akin to being a more serious Christian,&lt;br /&gt;
or a more advanced Christian, or a more&lt;br /&gt;
holy or godly Christian. (4) Because “spirituality”&lt;br /&gt;
today is often applied not only to&lt;br /&gt;
Protestants and Catholics alike, but also&lt;br /&gt;
to adherents of completely non-Christian&lt;br /&gt;
religions—for instance, many writers&lt;br /&gt;
probe what we ought to be learning from,&lt;br /&gt;
say, Buddhist “spirituality”—the word is&lt;br /&gt;
less and less tied to any identifiable belief&lt;br /&gt;
structure, and more and more tied to&lt;br /&gt;
technique. The assumption is that techniques&lt;br /&gt;
of “spirituality” may be readily&lt;br /&gt;
transferred from religion to religion, from&lt;br /&gt;
belief structure to belief structure.&lt;br /&gt;
So now it is time to address the question&lt;br /&gt;
directly. ''First'', some of the opportunities&lt;br /&gt;
bound up with current interest in&lt;br /&gt;
this vague thing called “spirituality” may&lt;br /&gt;
usefully be identified.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1) Although the term “spirituality” as&lt;br /&gt;
it is now used is astonishingly broad, it&lt;br /&gt;
usually signals a reluctance on the part&lt;br /&gt;
of those who espouse it to embrace philosophical&lt;br /&gt;
materialism. In other words,&lt;br /&gt;
being committed to “spirituality” usually&lt;br /&gt;
means one is committed to a universe that&lt;br /&gt;
has something in it beyond matter, energy,&lt;br /&gt;
space, and time. The sheer reductionism of&lt;br /&gt;
philosophical materialism is thus avoided,&lt;br /&gt;
even if the nature or even the rationale&lt;br /&gt;
of this “spirituality” is more than a little&lt;br /&gt;
fuzzy. That means the beginning point&lt;br /&gt;
in conversation with such “spiritual”&lt;br /&gt;
people is never quite the same as with,&lt;br /&gt;
say, a scientist committed to philosophical&lt;br /&gt;
materialism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(2) Epistemologically, those who&lt;br /&gt;
espouse “spirituality” are more open to&lt;br /&gt;
diverse channels of acquiring “knowledge”&lt;br /&gt;
than are those who buy into logical&lt;br /&gt;
positivism. To (over)simplify: While logical&lt;br /&gt;
positivists think that the only things&lt;br /&gt;
human beings can “know” are those&lt;br /&gt;
that are tied by observation and reason&lt;br /&gt;
to the material world, those interested&lt;br /&gt;
in “spirituality” are open to intuitions,&lt;br /&gt;
faith, extra-sensory perception, aesthetics,&lt;br /&gt;
and sometimes a range of supernatural&lt;br /&gt;
beings. I am far from saying that all of&lt;br /&gt;
these epistemological claims are wise or&lt;br /&gt;
defensible; I am merely saying that they&lt;br /&gt;
avoid one common form of reductionism,&lt;br /&gt;
and so how people may come to “know”&lt;br /&gt;
things about Jesus, and truly to “know”&lt;br /&gt;
him, can happily proceed along broader&lt;br /&gt;
lines than those acknowledged by reason&lt;br /&gt;
alone or by the senses alone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(3) In particular, those who espouse&lt;br /&gt;
“spirituality” can be praised for their&lt;br /&gt;
appreciation of the complexity of human&lt;br /&gt;
existence, of a non-material component.&lt;br /&gt;
One remembers Paul’s careful opening&lt;br /&gt;
remarks when he addresses the Areopagus:&lt;br /&gt;
“I see that in every way you are very&lt;br /&gt;
religious.” He then adduces, as evidence,&lt;br /&gt;
their “objects of worship” and even the&lt;br /&gt;
altar “To an Unknown God.” Today, for&lt;br /&gt;
most people in the Western world, being&lt;br /&gt;
labeled “religious” would not be taken&lt;br /&gt;
as any sort of compliment, ambiguous&lt;br /&gt;
or otherwise. I suspect that if Paul were&lt;br /&gt;
beginning his address today in New&lt;br /&gt;
York of Chicago or L.A., he would say, “I&lt;br /&gt;
see that in every way you are very spiritual.”&lt;br /&gt;
Of course, that would not prevent&lt;br /&gt;
Paul from chiding them for some of their&lt;br /&gt;
understanding of what it means to be&lt;br /&gt;
“spiritual,” or from providing a Christian&lt;br /&gt;
understanding of what it means to be&lt;br /&gt;
“spiritual”—just as he insists on a Christian&lt;br /&gt;
understanding of true “religion.”&lt;br /&gt;
Nevertheless, as the apostle detects some&lt;br /&gt;
measure of common humanity in the&lt;br /&gt;
desire to be “religious,” we ought to detect&lt;br /&gt;
some measure of common humanity in&lt;br /&gt;
the desire to be “spiritual.”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That brings us to the ''second'' part of the&lt;br /&gt;
question: What are the dangers in the&lt;br /&gt;
current interest in spirituality?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1) For many people, “spirituality” is a&lt;br /&gt;
word with only positive connotations—a&lt;br /&gt;
bit the way “apple pie” or “motherhood”&lt;br /&gt;
functioned in the Eisenhower years. The&lt;br /&gt;
upshot is that encouraging people to be&lt;br /&gt;
discerning in spiritual matters sounds&lt;br /&gt;
hyper-critical, for it presupposes that not&lt;br /&gt;
everything that passes for spirituality&lt;br /&gt;
is good. Yet diminished discernment is&lt;br /&gt;
rarely a good thing, and so we have to&lt;br /&gt;
make the attempt to avoid the clichés&lt;br /&gt;
surrounding “spirituality” and try to&lt;br /&gt;
encourage rigorous biblical fidelity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(2) The result of the current naïveté&lt;br /&gt;
about spirituality is that many people&lt;br /&gt;
have begun to appeal to their own mystical&lt;br /&gt;
experiences over against claims of&lt;br /&gt;
truth. An explanatory aside: Historically,&lt;br /&gt;
people have tended to base their religious&lt;br /&gt;
claims on reason, mysticism, or revelation.&lt;br /&gt;
This is not to say that there may not&lt;br /&gt;
be some overlap of these categories, of&lt;br /&gt;
course, but this analytical breakdown is&lt;br /&gt;
helpful. The current appeal to spirituality&lt;br /&gt;
is very largely an appeal to highly&lt;br /&gt;
diverse forms of mysticism—forms that&lt;br /&gt;
brook very little space for revelation in&lt;br /&gt;
any biblical sense, and not even much for&lt;br /&gt;
reason. Another way of saying this is that&lt;br /&gt;
personal experience trumps everything;&lt;br /&gt;
indeed, it becomes an end in itself, which&lt;br /&gt;
of course feeds that which, from the biblical&lt;br /&gt;
perspective, lies at the heart of human&lt;br /&gt;
rebellion, namely, self-interest.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(3) To put this another way: the current&lt;br /&gt;
shape of spirituality largely sidesteps&lt;br /&gt;
very substantial matters dealing with&lt;br /&gt;
history and truth. Did Jesus rise from&lt;br /&gt;
the dead, or did he not? If he did, what&lt;br /&gt;
does his resurrection mean? What does&lt;br /&gt;
it say about his own personal claims and&lt;br /&gt;
his own understanding of the human&lt;br /&gt;
beings? Is he truly the unique Son of God,&lt;br /&gt;
the “Word made flesh”? From a biblical&lt;br /&gt;
perspective, can one be “spiritual” while&lt;br /&gt;
still rejecting the Son of God? And such&lt;br /&gt;
matters as these are nestled within huge&lt;br /&gt;
questions of worldview: human beings&lt;br /&gt;
are important because we have been created&lt;br /&gt;
in the image of God; we are guilty&lt;br /&gt;
because we have chosen to go our own&lt;br /&gt;
way; salvation consists first and foremost&lt;br /&gt;
in being reconciled to the God from whom&lt;br /&gt;
we have alienated ourselves, and whose&lt;br /&gt;
judgment we must face; the only escape is&lt;br /&gt;
what this God has provided. Within that&lt;br /&gt;
sort of framework, then, Paul insists that&lt;br /&gt;
the “natural” person, the person without&lt;br /&gt;
the Spirit, “does not accept the things that&lt;br /&gt;
come from the Spirit of God but considers&lt;br /&gt;
them foolishness” (1 Cor 2:14). Only the&lt;br /&gt;
person who has received the Spirit, the&lt;br /&gt;
Spirit whom Jesus himself bequeathed&lt;br /&gt;
and who is the down payment of the&lt;br /&gt;
ultimate inheritance, is truly “spiritual.”&lt;br /&gt;
Thus being “spiritual” is tied irrefragably&lt;br /&gt;
to the gospel itself—in the context, to&lt;br /&gt;
“Jesus Christ and him crucified” (2:14).&lt;br /&gt;
Even when Paul refines this fundamental&lt;br /&gt;
polarity in the next chapter, and painfully&lt;br /&gt;
writes that some who are “spiritual” in&lt;br /&gt;
this fundamental sense are acting immaturely,&lt;br /&gt;
he assumes they are Christians:&lt;br /&gt;
their immaturity does not manifest itself&lt;br /&gt;
in the repudiation of the Christian faith,&lt;br /&gt;
but in one-upmanship and bickering (1&lt;br /&gt;
Cor 3). Certainly Christians are responsible&lt;br /&gt;
to “keep in step with the Spirit” (Gal&lt;br /&gt;
5:25). Yet the fundamental polarity of the&lt;br /&gt;
new covenant must not be ducked: those&lt;br /&gt;
who have the Spirit (a state bound up with&lt;br /&gt;
saving faith in Christ and his cross-work)&lt;br /&gt;
are spiritual, and those who do not have&lt;br /&gt;
the Spirit are not. Whatever else is said&lt;br /&gt;
about not quenching the Spirit, about&lt;br /&gt;
spiritual growth and knowledge of God,&lt;br /&gt;
about conformity to Christ—all of which&lt;br /&gt;
are regularly tied up with “spirituality” in&lt;br /&gt;
current discussion—must begin with this&lt;br /&gt;
fundamental polarity, or shunt to one side&lt;br /&gt;
the Bible and the gospel it announces.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Again, one should be suspicious of&lt;br /&gt;
generalizations of this sort: “By all means&lt;br /&gt;
read the evangelical literature if you want&lt;br /&gt;
to understand the cross, but if you want to&lt;br /&gt;
grow in spirituality, read the Catholics.”&lt;br /&gt;
The bifurcation is deeply troubling. Of&lt;br /&gt;
course, some Catholics have understood&lt;br /&gt;
the cross profoundly: we still sing, for&lt;br /&gt;
instance, some of Bernard de Clairvaux’s&lt;br /&gt;
cross-centered hymns (at least we did&lt;br /&gt;
until they were largely displaced by choruses&lt;br /&gt;
telling God that we are worshiping&lt;br /&gt;
him). But I have not read literature that&lt;br /&gt;
is more “spiritual” than the best of the&lt;br /&gt;
Puritan classics, for instance—literature&lt;br /&gt;
that is, on the whole, deeply imbued with&lt;br /&gt;
a profound grasp of the gospel. Is it really&lt;br /&gt;
biblically-defined spirituality which is&lt;br /&gt;
found in traditions that are ''less'' clear on&lt;br /&gt;
the nature of the gospel?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(4) Within the broadly Christian&lt;br /&gt;
heritage, a very large amount of current&lt;br /&gt;
discussion turns on technique, asceticism,&lt;br /&gt;
monastic practice, and the like. Not for a&lt;br /&gt;
moment would I want to deny that there&lt;br /&gt;
are degrees of knowledge of God (as there&lt;br /&gt;
are degrees of knowing any person), and&lt;br /&gt;
that some Christians are more mature&lt;br /&gt;
than others. One needs only to read Philippians&lt;br /&gt;
3, for instance, to remember how&lt;br /&gt;
Paul yearned for continued growth and&lt;br /&gt;
conformity to Christ. Moreover, disciplined&lt;br /&gt;
practices may prove to be a helpful&lt;br /&gt;
part of such growth for some believers.&lt;br /&gt;
For instance, Christians who commit&lt;br /&gt;
themselves to daily reading of substantial&lt;br /&gt;
parts of the Bible, along with the&lt;br /&gt;
journaling that keeps records of personal&lt;br /&gt;
reflections as one reads the text, may find&lt;br /&gt;
themselves growing substantially. But is it&lt;br /&gt;
the reading and journaling, ''considered as&lt;br /&gt;
techniques'', that are achieving these ends?&lt;br /&gt;
Or is it the truth of the Word? After all, on&lt;br /&gt;
the night he was betrayed, Jesus prayed,&lt;br /&gt;
“Sanctify them by your truth; your word&lt;br /&gt;
is truth” (John 17:17). There are myriads&lt;br /&gt;
of passages that stress the importance&lt;br /&gt;
of meditating on, believing in, obeying,&lt;br /&gt;
learning, memorizing (“hiding in one’s&lt;br /&gt;
heart”), God’s truth; there are none that&lt;br /&gt;
mandate journaling. I hasten to insist that&lt;br /&gt;
I am not unalterably opposed to journaling.&lt;br /&gt;
But I am deeply suspicious of any&lt;br /&gt;
appeal to technique in spirituality that&lt;br /&gt;
is not mandated by Scripture, the more&lt;br /&gt;
so if it has the effect of masking what the&lt;br /&gt;
Scripture is actually talking about.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sometimes the technique that is being&lt;br /&gt;
urged is so heavily horizontal that it&lt;br /&gt;
barely acknowledges God. One recent&lt;br /&gt;
influential book, for instance, urges us to&lt;br /&gt;
move through distinct phases of spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
exploration, regardless of the particular&lt;br /&gt;
object of our faith (i.e., what we believe is&lt;br /&gt;
unimportant; the categories of spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
growth are sociologically determined): (1)&lt;br /&gt;
discovery, i.e., we find God on the particular&lt;br /&gt;
path we have chosen; (2) belonging, i.e.,&lt;br /&gt;
we attach ourselves to a particular group;&lt;br /&gt;
(3) working, i.e., we commit ourselves to&lt;br /&gt;
this religious cause; (4) questioning, i.e.,&lt;br /&gt;
at some point we may begin to wonder&lt;br /&gt;
what we are doing here; (5) the wall, i.e.,&lt;br /&gt;
we hit an impasse; (6) living with uncertainty,&lt;br /&gt;
i.e., we work through the impasse&lt;br /&gt;
and choose deeper confidence on the&lt;br /&gt;
God we believe in, while we hold other&lt;br /&gt;
things more loosely; (7) living in love,&lt;br /&gt;
i.e., we learn better how to live for God&lt;br /&gt;
and others. Regardless of the accuracy&lt;br /&gt;
or inaccuracy of this sociological profile,&lt;br /&gt;
it is utterly detached from ''any'' particular&lt;br /&gt;
belief system, including the gospel. We&lt;br /&gt;
are a long way from 1 Corinthians and&lt;br /&gt;
Galatians, from the Farewell Discourse,&lt;br /&gt;
from Ephesians, from Matthew’s form of&lt;br /&gt;
the Great Commission.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What we must see is that only what&lt;br /&gt;
is valuable is counterfeited. One does&lt;br /&gt;
not bother to counterfeit pennies; one&lt;br /&gt;
counterfeits $20 bills or $100 bills. A great&lt;br /&gt;
deal of biblically-mandated spirituality is&lt;br /&gt;
counterfeited by those who will not come&lt;br /&gt;
under the biblical frame of reference,&lt;br /&gt;
precisely because ''biblical'' spirituality is&lt;br /&gt;
glorious, so it seems worth counterfeiting.&lt;br /&gt;
Sadly, Christians are easily taken in by&lt;br /&gt;
such counterfeits, unless they relentlessly&lt;br /&gt;
return to Scripture to test all things.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(5) It may seem a tad harsh to say it,&lt;br /&gt;
but in my experience, many (though&lt;br /&gt;
certainly not all) of those who buy into&lt;br /&gt;
contemporary approaches to spirituality&lt;br /&gt;
have no hesitation about saying things&lt;br /&gt;
like “I really am quite a spiritual person.”&lt;br /&gt;
This is not surprising. Once spirituality is&lt;br /&gt;
tied to technique, personal mysticism, and&lt;br /&gt;
self-discipline, it can easily become a basis&lt;br /&gt;
for pride. This is a long way removed from&lt;br /&gt;
the fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps it is the fruit of the Spirit that&lt;br /&gt;
gives us an important clue to what we&lt;br /&gt;
should be pursuing. We often encourage&lt;br /&gt;
people to memorize the nine-fold fruit&lt;br /&gt;
of the Spirit, but observe carefully the&lt;br /&gt;
references to the Spirit in the context: “So&lt;br /&gt;
I say,'' walk by the Spirit'', and you will not&lt;br /&gt;
gratify the desires of the sinful nature.&lt;br /&gt;
For the sinful nature desires what is&lt;br /&gt;
contrary to ''the Spirit'', and ''the Spirit'' what&lt;br /&gt;
is contrary to the sinful nature. They are&lt;br /&gt;
in conflict with each other, so that you&lt;br /&gt;
are not to do whatever you want. But&lt;br /&gt;
if you are led ''by the Spirit'', you are not&lt;br /&gt;
under the law. . . . But ''the fruit of the Spirit''&lt;br /&gt;
is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,&lt;br /&gt;
goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and&lt;br /&gt;
self-control. Against such things there is&lt;br /&gt;
no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus&lt;br /&gt;
have crucified the sinful nature with its&lt;br /&gt;
passions and desires. Since we ''live by the&lt;br /&gt;
Spirit, ''let us'' keep in step with the Spirit''. Let&lt;br /&gt;
us not become conceited, provoking and&lt;br /&gt;
envying each other” (Gal 5:16ff.). This&lt;br /&gt;
is where our future lies: walking by the&lt;br /&gt;
Spirit, being led by the Spirit, keeping in&lt;br /&gt;
step with the Spirit, growing in the fruit&lt;br /&gt;
of the Spirit. Here is spirituality alive with&lt;br /&gt;
Christ-centered awareness, a passionate&lt;br /&gt;
desire to bring glory to God and good to&lt;br /&gt;
his people, a love and a joy and a peace,&lt;br /&gt;
and all the rest, that are cruciform.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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